Legislature(2007 - 2008)CAPITOL 17

02/20/2008 03:00 PM House LABOR & COMMERCE


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*+ HB 331 MOTOR VEHICLES:INS/LICENSES/IMPOUNDMENTS TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 331(L&C) Out of Committee
*+ HJR 32 BROADCASTING INDUSTRY TELECONFERENCED
Moved Out of Committee
Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled
HB 331-MOTOR VEHICLES:INS/LICENSES/IMPOUNDMENTS                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:35:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON announced that the next order of business would be                                                                  
HOUSE BILL NO.  331, "An Act relating to  mandatory motor vehicle                                                               
insurance,   license  suspensions,   mandatory  impoundments   of                                                               
vehicles used in certain offenses,  and notices relating to motor                                                               
vehicles and driver's licenses."                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:35:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CRYSTAL  KOENEMAN,  Staff  to Representative  Bob  Roses,  Alaska                                                               
State  Legislature,  presented HB  331  on  behalf of  the  prime                                                               
sponsor, Representative  Bob Roses.   She  explained that  HB 331                                                               
would address a  problem in the Division of  Motor Vehicles (DMV)                                                               
statutes with  respect to  the address of  record.   Currently if                                                               
someone  is involved  in a  motor vehicle  accident but  does not                                                               
have proof  of liability insurance,  the law  enforcement officer                                                               
provides the  driver with a  form to fill  out and submit  to the                                                               
DMV with proof  of liability insurance.  The  DMV currently mails                                                               
any notice to the driver's address  of record.  When the driver's                                                               
address has changed, the mail  is often returned as undeliverable                                                               
and the  party never receives the  notice.  If that  happens, the                                                               
division  does   not  have  proof  of   mandatory  insurance  and                                                               
subsequently suspends  the driver's license.   Under HB  331, the                                                               
DMV would  be required to  send the  notice to the  driver's last                                                               
known address,  not to the  address of  record.  This  bill would                                                               
also change failure  to notify the DMV of address  changes from a                                                               
misdemeanor   to  a   violation;  would   institute  a   class  B                                                               
misdemeanor for  driving without liability  insurance, punishable                                                               
by a  minimum fine of  $500; and  would allow law  enforcement to                                                               
impound vehicles  for certain  crimes such  as driving  under the                                                               
influence of alcohol or drugs.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:38:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  NEUMAN referred  to proposed  AS 28.05.071  of HB
331.  He  inquired as to whether the $300  fine for not notifying                                                               
the  DMV of  an  address change  is  set too  high.   He  further                                                               
inquired as  to the number of  drivers that do not  have proof of                                                               
insurance in the vehicle at the time of an accident.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS. KOENEMAN stated that HB 331  provides a defense if the person                                                               
has insurance and provides proof of insurance to the court.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  NEUMAN expressed  concern that  the driver  would                                                               
incur expenses  in order to appear  in court.  He  inquired as to                                                               
whether it  would be easier for  the driver to provide  the proof                                                               
of insurance directly to the DMV.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS.  KOENEMAN  offered  that  when a  driver  provides  proof  of                                                               
insurance  with his  insurance card  at the  time of  an accident                                                               
that does  not necessarily  prove that  the driver  has insurance                                                               
since the  policy may have  lapsed.   Until the DMV  contacts the                                                               
insurance company, there  is no way to know for  certain that the                                                               
driver has maintained the insurance policy.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.  KOENEMAN, in  response to  Representative Neuman,  explained                                                               
that currently the  DMV checks insurance at the  time of renewal.                                                               
However, the policy  may have lapsed at the time  of the accident                                                               
so  requiring that  the  proof  of insurance  upon  renewal of  a                                                               
driver's  license or  for vehicle  registration would  not remedy                                                               
the problem.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:42:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  KOENEMAN, in  response  to  Representative Gardner,  related                                                               
that  currently DMV  maintains an  address of  record.   However,                                                               
failure to notify  the DMV within 30 days of  moving would result                                                               
in a fine under HB 331.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:43:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LEDOUX  offered  that  HB 331  is  written  in  a                                                               
confusing  or convoluted  manner.   She  related  that Section  2                                                               
provides an affirmative defense that  the party provides proof of                                                               
insurance to  the court.   She inquired  as to whether  there was                                                               
some other way to provide proof of insurance.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:44:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LES GARA, Alaska  State Legislature, as cosponsor,                                                               
offered  that HB  331  corrects frustrating  parts  of the  motor                                                               
vehicle law.   Currently,  if a  person drives  without liability                                                               
insurance  it  is  a  crime,  which  it  should  be,  he  opined.                                                               
However, a person  with valid insurance can be  charged if he/she                                                               
cannot provide proof  of insurance.  If that  happens, the driver                                                               
currently would  provide proof  during his/her  court appearance.                                                               
Proposed  Section 2  of  HB 331  removes the  burden  of a  court                                                               
appearance by allowing  the party to either provide  proof to the                                                               
DMV or the  law enforcement officer at the time  of the accident.                                                               
Not only  is it burdensome  to appear  at the court  hearing, but                                                               
while the  case is  pending, the driver  "has the  matter hanging                                                               
over his/her  head."  Under  HB 331,  the driver would  know that                                                               
once he/she provides  proof to the court, since  the outcome will                                                               
be that the district attorney will  drop the case.  He reiterated                                                               
that  once the  DMV  sends  a notice  to  the  address of  record                                                               
requesting that  the driver  provide proof  of insurance  and the                                                               
driver  is  non-responsive, the  DMV  will  suspend the  person's                                                               
driver's license.   In the event that the  driver is subsequently                                                               
stopped  by a  police  officer,  either routinely  or  due to  an                                                               
accident,  the  driver  would  be charged  with  driving  with  a                                                               
suspended or  revoked license, which is  a crime.  Under  HB 331,                                                               
the  penalty for  failure  to maintain  a  current address  would                                                               
change from a class B  misdemeanor to an infraction punishable by                                                               
a fine of up to $300.  He  offered that the committee may wish to                                                               
consider removing the  fine.  He offered that the  only reason to                                                               
impose a fine  is to provide DMV with an  incentive for people to                                                               
keep their address current.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:47:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX  argued that proposed  Section 2 of  HB 331                                                               
may  not provide  relief  to  the driver,  since  it requires  an                                                               
affirmative  defense.   Therefore, the  driver must  still go  to                                                               
court to provide proof of insurance.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARA  answered  that  under  current  statute,  a                                                               
person who drives without a  license commits a crime, even though                                                               
the driver's license  was revoked for lack of  proof of liability                                                               
insurance; and  even though the  driver had  maintained liability                                                               
insurance.    He  offered  that  HB 331  would  provide  a  valid                                                               
affirmative defense.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LEDOUX pointed  out that  the statutory  language                                                               
seems overly complicated.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARA acknowledged  that HB  331 is  complex.   He                                                               
noted that the  DMV currently is aware of the  loophole, that the                                                               
language contained  in the bill passed  the body last year  in HB
184, sponsored  by Representative  Roses, although  the provision                                                               
was later  removed in the  other body.   Thus, HB 184  passed the                                                               
legislature  without   the  driver's  address  of   record  issue                                                               
addressed.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:48:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GATTO  pointed out  that driving without  proof of                                                               
liability  insurance  is a  six  point  deduction on  a  person's                                                               
record.   He inquired as to  the total points allowed  before the                                                               
DMV would suspend a person's license.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS.  KOENEMAN  offered  to provide  the  driver's  license  point                                                               
system.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GATTO  expressed concern that the  current process                                                               
complicates the process for driver who was legitimately insured.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:50:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARDNER  acknowledged the importance  of requiring                                                               
liability insurance.   She related concern that  the driver would                                                               
lose six  points on his/her  license for simply not  having proof                                                               
of liability insurance.   She inquired as to the  reason that the                                                               
DMV would use  the old address to provide  notification since the                                                               
officer obtained updated  address information at the  time of the                                                               
accident or  traffic stop.  She  suggested that DMV use  the most                                                               
current address as the driver's address of record.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:52:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WHITNEY BREWSTER, Director, Director's  Office, Division of Motor                                                               
Vehicles  (DMV), Department  of  Administration  (DOA), began  by                                                               
answering questions previously raised.   She stated that a driver                                                               
is  allowed 12  points in  one  year or  18 points  in 24  months                                                               
before a  license is suspended.   However, she noted  that points                                                               
are placed  on the  driver's record upon  conviction.   She noted                                                               
that a judge also has the  authority to dismiss a violation.  The                                                               
DMV supports  the flexibility to  send notices to the  address of                                                               
record or  to an  address acquired  at the  time of  an accident.                                                               
She  estimated that  10 percent  of mail  that DMV  sends to  the                                                               
driver's address of  record is undeliverable.   She stressed that                                                               
the DMV desires to notify parties of the DMV's requirements.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:53:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LEDOUX maintained  concern that  Section 2  of HB
331 seems convoluted.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARA acknowledged  that the  current law  is also                                                               
complex.  He  explained that under the  bill, proposed subsection                                                               
(d) allows  for an affirmative  defense, but he/she still  has to                                                               
prove it.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX pointed out that  the driver has the burden                                                               
of  proof,  which means  that  person  must  appear in  court  to                                                               
present an affirmative defense.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARA reiterated  an earlier  scenario in  which a                                                               
driver cannot provide proof of  his/her liability insurance.  The                                                               
DMV  would  mail a  notice  to  the  driver's address  of  record                                                               
requesting   proof  of   liability  insurance.     The   form  is                                                               
undeliverable so  the DMV  revokes his/her  license.   The person                                                               
continues to drive since he/she  is unaware of the administrative                                                               
revocation.     The  driver  gets   pulled  over  again   and  is                                                               
subsequently arrested  for driving without  a license.   The only                                                               
recourse  the driver  has is  to go  to court  and hope  that the                                                               
district  attorney  will  not prosecute  the  case.    Meanwhile,                                                               
he/she cannot drive and has no  assurance that the matter will be                                                               
appropriately  handled in  court.   This bill  would provide  the                                                               
driver with an affirmative defense.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARA,  in   response  to  Representative  LeDoux,                                                               
pointed out that  he has known several people  who have undergone                                                               
the  stress  of  being  arrested,  posting  bail,  and  having  a                                                               
criminal  charge  pending  until  the court  date.    In  further                                                               
response to Representative  LeDoux, Representative Gara explained                                                               
that under HB  331, the driver has the knowledge  that he/she has                                                               
a legitimate defense that is very easy to prove.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:58:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BREWSTER, in  response to  Representative Gardner,  answered                                                               
that  while the  driver must  show proof  of insurance  in court,                                                               
cases  such  as the  one  described  by Representative  Gara  are                                                               
ultimately dismissed.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARDNER inquired  as to whether a  person would be                                                               
cited for not having proof of insurance in his/her vehicle.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. BREWSTER answered that the  driver would be cited for failure                                                               
to provide  insurance, but that  the points would not  be applied                                                               
to the driver's record unless the driver was actually convicted.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARA  explained that  the  issue  of whether  the                                                               
driver has  proof of  insurance in  the car  is not  addressed in                                                               
bill.   He  suggested a  possible solution  might be  for DMV  to                                                               
offer a  waiver once  the party provides  the proof  of liability                                                               
insurance.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:01:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. BREWSTER, in  response to Chair Olson, answered  that the DMV                                                               
supports  proposed  Section 4  of  HB  331, which  addresses  the                                                               
ability  of the  division  to send  notification  to the  current                                                               
address on  file, or  the address given  on the  accident report.                                                               
However, the division is neutral on other sections of HB 331.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:01:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE NEUMAN inquired as to  whether the driver who does                                                               
not send in the paperwork would be considered a criminal.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARA  explained the process again.   He emphasized                                                               
that the process  is not fixable under current law,  which is the                                                               
reason that  proposed Sections 2 and  4 are important.   He noted                                                               
that  the  requirement  for   liability  insurance  is  currently                                                               
mandatory and HB 331 does  not affect insurance.  Driving without                                                               
liability  insurance   currently  is   a  class   B  misdemeanor,                                                               
punishable  by fine  of  as  little as  zero  dollars.   Proposed                                                               
Section 3 would  impose a minimum fine of $500  as a disincentive                                                               
for people to drive without liability insurance.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE NEUMAN expressed support  for some sections of the                                                               
bill.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:04:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARDNER spoke  against proposed  Section 1.   She                                                               
made a motion to adopt Conceptual Amendment 1 as follows:                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     On page 1, lines 5-7,                                                                                                      
          Delete Section 1.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX inquired  as to whether DMV  could send out                                                               
the form to  both the address of record and  the address provided                                                               
to the law enforcement officer at the time of the accident.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BREWSTER acknowledged  that  DMV does  receive all  accident                                                               
reports.   However,  the  cost  to mail  certified  letters to  a                                                               
driver is $4  per letter.  In further  response to Representative                                                               
LeDoux,  Ms. Brewster  said she  was not  aware of  any law  that                                                               
would  prevent the  division from  mailing letters  to additional                                                               
addresses,  but the  law only  specifies notices  be sent  to the                                                               
address of  record.   Given the number  of accident  reports, the                                                               
DMV  would incur  substantial costs  to mail  out two  notices to                                                               
each driver, she surmised.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:08:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARDNER withdrew her motion.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GATTO expressed concern  that everyone who changes                                                               
residence  must  remember to  notify  the  DMV of  their  address                                                               
change.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:10:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  KOENEMAN,  in  response   to  Representative  Neuman,  noted                                                               
subsection (a) which read:                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     A  person  who  has  applied   for  or  been  issued  a                                                                    
     certificate,  registration, title,  license, permit  or                                                                    
     other   form  under   this  title   shall  notify   the                                                                    
     appropriate  department in  writing  of  the change  of                                                                    
     name or address within 30 days ...                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS.  KOENEMAN   added  that  subsection  (b)   adds  the  penalty                                                               
provision.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. KOENEMAN,  in response to Representative  Neuman, referred to                                                               
on page 2,  lines 14-15 of HB 331, and  offered that AS 28.33.030                                                               
relates  to controlled  substances,  AS 28.33.031  refers to  the                                                               
failure to submit to breathalyzer,  AS 28.35.030 and AS 28.35.032                                                               
refers to refusal to submit to chemical testing.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:13:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARA offered that when  a penalty provision is not                                                               
set by statute,  the penalty automatically defaults to  a class B                                                               
misdemeanor.  Thus, proposed AS  28.15.071(b) was added to HB 331                                                               
to indicate  that the  infraction is punishable  only by  a fine.                                                               
He offered  that the committee  might consider reducing  the fine                                                               
"not to exceed $50" which would  mean that the fine could also be                                                               
zero.  He further explained that  Section 5 was added to the bill                                                               
since impoundment  is not  automatic in  driving while  under the                                                               
influence crimes.   An owner who loaned their car  to someone who                                                               
later drives  while under  the influence  of alcohol  while using                                                               
the loaned vehicle, could pay  the impound fees to obtain his/her                                                               
car.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE NEUMAN expressed concern with proposed Section 5.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARDNER recalled the  discussion during the action                                                               
last session on  the previous bill, HB 184.   She recollected the                                                               
rationale  used and  the sponsor's  intent to  not only  take the                                                               
driver off the road, but to also remove the vehicle.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARA, in response  to Representative Gatto, agreed                                                               
that rental  cars would be  affected by the impound  provision of                                                               
the bill.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARDNER   pointed  out   that  drivers   sign  an                                                               
agreement  at the  time they  rent  a car.   Thus,  a car  rental                                                               
agency  would  apply any  additional  costs  incurred during  the                                                               
rental directly on the driver's credit card.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:17:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  OLSON,  after first  determining  no  one else  wished  to                                                               
testify, closed public testimony on HB 331.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:17:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARDNER made  a  motion to  adopt new  Conceptual                                                               
Amendment 1, as follows:                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     On page 1, line 7                                                                                                          
          Delete "$300"                                                                                                         
          Insert "$25"                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARDNER  explained  new Conceptual  Amendment  1.                                                               
She offered that  someone who fails to notify the  DMV of his/her                                                               
current residential  address would only  be subject to a  fine of                                                               
$25.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:17:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON objected.   He warned members that  reducing the fine                                                               
would weaken  the need for  people to keep their  address current                                                               
with the DMV.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX pointed out that  most people are not aware                                                               
of the need to notify DMV of their address change.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:18:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A  roll call  vote  was taken.    Representatives Gatto,  LeDoux,                                                               
Buch,  Gardner,  and Neuman  voted  in  favor of  new  Conceptual                                                               
Amendment 1.  Representatives Ramras  and Olson voted against it.                                                               
Therefore, new  Conceptual Amendment 1  was adopted by a  vote of                                                               
5-2.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:19:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  NEUMAN   made  a   motion  to   adopt  Conceptual                                                               
Amendment 2, as follows:                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     On page 2, lines 12-20,                                                                                                    
          Delete Section 5                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:20:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARDNER objected.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:20:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. KOENEMAN expressed concern  about impounding another person's                                                               
car,  although she  acknowledged it  is  up to  the committee  to                                                               
decide.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARDNER   recalled  that   Representative  Seaton                                                               
wanted law enforcement officers to  have the authority to impound                                                               
vehicles for certain  crimes.  However, the owner  could have the                                                               
vehicle returned.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:22:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  KOENEMAN, in  response  to  Representative LeDoux,  reminded                                                               
members  that Representative  Gara  testified  that the  language                                                               
contained in Section  5 of HB 331 was added  as a floor amendment                                                               
to HB 184  in 2007, but the  bill was later amended  in the other                                                               
body and the language was removed.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARA  noted his ambivalence  as to whether  or not                                                               
to retain  proposed Section 5 of  HB 331, but he  assured members                                                               
that Representative Seaton supports proposed Section 5.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:23:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON  offered that he  supports Conceptual Amendment  2 on                                                               
the basis that Representative Seaton  could work with the sponsor                                                               
of the bill prior to the  next committee of referral to determine                                                               
whether the additional language is necessary.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARDNER withdrew her objection.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
There being no objection, Conceptual Amendment 2 was adopted.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:24:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARA expressed  concern  that the  title was  too                                                               
broad since two items had been  deleted, so portions of the title                                                               
no  longer apply.    This  bill does  not  relate  to changes  of                                                               
mandatory  motor  vehicle  insurance,  so  "mandatory"  could  be                                                               
deleted, he suggested.   He further noted that  this bill relates                                                               
to  motor vehicle  insurance, but  that the  last portion,  which                                                               
read, "Notices relating to motor  vehicles and drivers' licenses"                                                               
should be narrowed  to read, "notices relating  to motor vehicles                                                               
and notices relating to drivers' licenses".                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LEDOUX   made  a   motion  to   adopt  Conceptual                                                               
Amendment 3  which is a  title change to incorporate  the changes                                                               
Representative Gara  suggested.   The new title  under Conceptual                                                               
Amendment 3, would read:                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
      An Act relating to motor vehicle insurance, license                                                                       
      suspensions, and notices relating to motor vehicles                                                                       
     and notices relating to driver's licenses.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
There being no objection, Conceptual Amendment 3 was adopted.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:26:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX moved to report  HB 331, as amended, out of                                                               
committee  with individual  recommendations and  the accompanying                                                               
fiscal notes.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being  no objection,  CSHB 331(L&C)  was reported  from the                                                               
House Labor and Commerce Standing Committee.                                                                                    

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